Hormonal Conflict: Why Fasting Protocols (18/6) Must Be Tweaked for Women Over 30 (Avoiding Cortisol Spikes)
Voice of the Audience
• “It seems contradictory; all the information we recieve as women regarding fasting. I think i have created my critical thinking ven diagram. Fasting is an okay and beneficial way to reset the body, metabolism, mind, through autophagy and cellular clean up WHEN a lifestyle change is necessary to remove CURRENT disease. Women over 30 should avoid long term fasting as our biology and mental health is dependent on vitamins, amino acids, ect to maintain a healthy body and mind. Hoqever, a proper and consistent eating window should be established, which would include a regular night time fast.”
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• “HI, Thanks for another really interesting episode.....although I'm now very confused. I listened to "Effects of fasting and time restricted eating on fat loss and health" a while back and had adopted the 18/6 hour eating. But now Dr Sims info totally conflicts this (for women,.esp perimenopause women) Who's right?? What's the right/best advice???”
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• “I think women 45 and over need to be careful with fasting.”
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This article is part of the Longevity Series exploring how fasting protocols affect women’s hormones, metabolism, and long-term health.
Behind the Answer
The conversation on fasting has shifted from a general, one-size-fits-all tool to a highly sex-specific strategy. For women, particularly those in their reproductive years and older, prolonged fasting (like the 18/6 protocol) is viewed as potentially detrimental because it interacts negatively with the female hormonal system, primarily by elevating the stress hormone cortisol. Experts emphasize that women are already more metabolically flexible than men due to having more oxidative muscle fibers. Therefore, the benefits men seek through fasting (like metabolic flexibility) may be gained by women through simpler methods, while prolonged fasting carries greater hormonal risk.
The Concern
The audience is deeply confused because longevity advice often promotes fasting (e.g., 18/6 or longer), but specific women's health experts warn against it. The core concern is that intermittent fasting (IF) may spike cortisol and place the female body in a chronic high-stress, or sympathetic, state. This perceived low-energy state by the brain (hypothalamus) can downregulate kisspeptin neurons, leading to thyroid and luteinizing hormone dysregulation, which is particularly concerning for women in perimenopause (40s) where baseline cortisol is already fluctuating. This chronic sympathetic drive can lead to obesogenic outcomes, cognitive impairment, and make it difficult to access the parasympathetic (rest and digest) state.
The Tip
Women should prioritize fueling their training and aligning their eating window with their circadian rhythm to avoid unnecessary cortisol spikes, especially in the morning. For women who train intensely, the optimal strategy involves having some protein rich fuel before the workout (to protect lean muscle mass and kisspeptin neurons) and consuming a substantial amount of high-quality protein immediately post-workout (within 60 minutes).
Creators Addressed
Dr. Stacy Sims
Dr. Sims extensively addressed the specific detrimental effects of intermittent fasting (IF) for active women, particularly those in perimenopause and older.
- Clarity, Depth, Practicality: She states that IF is "very detrimental" for active women unless they have a specific condition like obesity, inactivity, or PCOS. The primary mechanism is the increase in cortisol due to the metabolic stress of prolonged fasting, especially when compounded with exercise and caffeine. She explains that fasting perturbs kisspeptin neurons in the hypothalamus, which are crucial for regulating appetite, thyroid, and luteinizing hormone, leading to hormonal and cognitive dysfunction.
- Unique Perspectives/Actionable Advice: Dr. Sims highlighted that women should aim for an earlier eating window (e.g., breaking the fast at 8 a.m. and finishing by 4 p.m. or 5 p.m.) to align with circadian rhythms, contrasting this with the noon-to-6 p.m. eating window often associated with obesogenic outcomes. She provides the 10-Minute Rule for listening to the body before training and emphasizes that even small amounts of protein (around 15g pre-workout) can protect the brain's signaling and conserve lean mass.
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
Dr. Lyon provided context on fasting primarily through the lens of muscle health and aging, reinforcing the need for caution in older women.
- Clarity, Depth, Practicality: Dr. Lyon focused on the importance of skeletal muscle as the "organ of longevity". She stated that if an individual is older or struggling to put on muscle, fasting would not be her primary go-to. This is because aging individuals already have a harder time regulating muscle protein synthesis (anabolism vs. catabolism), and fasting adds difficulty to getting the necessary high doses of protein (30-50 grams per meal) required to maintain muscle mass in later life.
- Unique Perspectives/Actionable Advice: She confirmed that while intermittent fasting can be a tool for calorie restriction and providing bowel rest, it compromises the ability to achieve the total protein intake needed for muscle preservation in aging individuals.
Dr. Rhonda Patrick (Implied source content, based on context)
Dr. Patrick's general longevity advice mentioned intermittent fasting as a tool for weight loss, but the general discussion around fasting in the sources often focused on metabolic flexibility and autophagy.
Dr. David Sinclair (Implied source content, based on context)
In the context of longevity principles, the idea of starvation and inhibiting mTOR (a pathway linked to aging) is often discussed.
- Clarity, Depth, Practicality: The philosophy of longevity, in general, suggests that starvation or "starvation mimicking hacks" are beneficial for renewal and repair. However, this is countered by the argument that one must balance the anti-aging effects of autophagy/mTOR inhibition (via fasting) with the need for mTOR activation (via protein/resistance training) to build and maintain muscle mass. David Asprey explicitly noted that most women over 50 should not do one meal a day (OMAD) because it makes getting enough protein impossible, which can increase cortisol and thus speed up aging.
Quick Summary (Do This Tonight)
If you are a woman who trains in the morning and currently fasts, consume 15-30 grams of high-quality protein (e.g., a shake) immediately upon waking or 30 minutes before your workout to protect your hormonal system and muscle tissue.
How to Do It (Step-by-Step Breakdown)
- Stop Prolonged Morning Fasting: If you are actively training, avoid holding your fast until noon or later.
- Micro-Fuel Pre-Workout: If you train fasted in the morning (especially if you also use caffeine), ingest a minimum of 15 grams of high-quality protein (or amino acids) 30 minutes before or immediately upon waking. This small amount is intended to "signal" the brain that nutrition is on board, protecting kisspeptin neurons and blunting the cortisol spike.
- Prioritize Post-Workout Protein: Within 60 minutes of finishing a resistance training session, women should consume 35 grams of high-quality protein (reproductive years) or 40-60 grams (perimenopausal/menopausal) to maximize muscle repair and stop the catabolic state.
- Align Eating Window Earlier: If practicing time-restricted eating, aim for an earlier eating window (e.g., 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. or 5 p.m.) rather than delaying your fast break until noon, which has been associated with more obesogenic outcomes.
Common Mistakes & Fixes
Common Mistake
Fix
- Mistake: Training intensely while fasted and on caffeine.
Fix: This exacerbates the sympathetic (stress) drive and increases cortisol. Fuel with at least 15g of protein pre-workout. - Mistake: Thinking the "anabolic window" doesn't exist for women.
Fix: The data suggesting a lack of a post-workout window is based on male physiology. Women have a tighter window (within 60 minutes) to ingest protein to halt catabolism and begin repair. - Mistake: Attempting one meal a day (OMAD) to get high protein.
Fix: It is extremely difficult for most women, especially over 50, to consume the necessary 100-160 grams of quality protein in one sitting, leading to muscle loss and increased cortisol. Aim for protein thresholds (30-50g) multiple times per day.
Related Raw Comments
- “I’m mid forties and have nursed for over a decade and it feels like nothing is working and would like a way forward if it is different. Thanks!” (Note: Breastfeeding women are also often in a depleted state where fasting is inadvisable.)
- “I’m so glad there is enough data now to know what IF does to women. Especially entering perimenopause. There is so much misinformation based on lack of long term data. Feels like so many experts were saying it was the thing to do-even on this podcast. It works wonders for my husband! Wonders!!!. Intuitively it didn’t seem like I should be doing it but I have! Just didn’t seem like I could eat enough in my window being busy, unless I was downing liquid calories! This interview was so helpful! Thank you AH for doing this interview!”
- “I had to stop intermittent fasting after two years because of thyroid issues and just tried the breakfast suggested here for one week, the results in terms of how I feel when I exercise is impressive, today I skipped the protein breakfast and I feel like if I had fasted... 42 woman, thanks for helping me preserve my muscles!”
Quick Answers (FAQ)
Is intermittent fasting ever good for women?
A: Yes, if the goal is calorie restriction for weight loss, or if the woman is struggling with metabolic conditions like obesity, inactivity, or PCOS. However, it should be used as a strategic intervention and not a chronic state, and it should still be aligned with circadian rhythms (earlier eating window).
Why does fasting increase cortisol for women but not men?
A: Women have different kisspeptin neuron systems in the brain compared to men, which are sensitive to low energy availability (fasting). When the body perceives stress (lack of fuel), the sympathetic drive increases, raising cortisol and downregulating hormones like thyroid and luteinizing hormone necessary for endocrine function.
If I'm over 50 and want to gain muscle, should I fast?
A: No. As you age, your muscles become anabolically resistant and require more protein (40-60g per meal) and mechanical stimulation to sustain muscle protein synthesis. Fasting makes it extremely difficult to hit those high protein targets throughout the day, which can lead to muscle loss.
Bottom Line
The long-term, extreme fasting protocols often touted in the general longevity space are based primarily on male physiology and metabolism. For women over 30, especially those who are physically active or approaching perimenopause, chronic fasting risks triggering a stress response that elevates cortisol, perturbs delicate hormonal cycles, and accelerates lean muscle loss. Longevity for women is best supported by adopting a fueled approach that prioritizes high-quality protein timing, especially around exercise, and aligns eating with the body’s circadian and hormonal needs.
How this was generated: This article compiles expert commentary and audience feedback on fasting protocols for women, based on longevity-focused YouTube discussions.
Medical Disclaimer: The content is for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. Always consult your physician before changing fasting or nutrition habits.